Consultation watch!

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sallyhinch

These things get time consuming to maintain!

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grimnorth

Waltham Forest have launched a consultation on the Higham Hill regeneration scheme, I've highlighted their cycling proposals below - deadline is Friday Feb 22nd.

Proposals

  • Shop front improvement scheme.
  • Footways will be reconstructed in places to enhance the pedestrian environment, increase visibility and safety for all road users.
  • Full junction raised tables – at three key locations on Higham Hill Road to slow vehicles entering and exiting side roads, provide step free informal crossings points and give more priority to pedestrians.
  • New zebra crossing on a raised table – near the junction with Claremont Road to enhance pedestrian safety.
  • Public space improvements at the junction of Bramley Close with Higham Hill Road – to provide an attractive & safer street environment.
  • Installing of Cycle Racks at the junction of Bramley Close with Higham Hill Road.
  • Advance warning signs, i.e. ‘Hump sign’, ‘footway parking sign’ and ‘hump crossing sign’.
  • Cycle symbol markings on the road surface to highlight cyclists to other road users.
  • Enhancements to the Higham Hill Recreation Ground including improved entrances at Hecham Close, Norfolk Road and Sutton Road with a greater lighting upgrade to the park.
  • Additional exercise equipment to Higham Hill Recreation Ground.
  • Planting of new trees along the Higham Hill Recreation Ground footpath.
  • Improved street lighting in Higham Hill Road – to enhance safety and improve the street’s visual appearance.
  • Enhancements to Trecherfield Allotments boundary railings.
  • Wayfinding – Finger Post at the junction of St Andrews Road with Higham Hill Road.

Full details at http://www.walthamforest.gov.uk/pages/news/higham-hill-area-regeneration.aspx

sallyhinch

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andy_gla

I've received a copy of a pre-consultation design for a cycle route through north-eastern Glasgow. I've put the PDFs in a zip file at http://www.filedropper.com/glasgownortheast

The route is to run between Riddrie and the city centre via Dennistoun, partly on main road, partly on back streets, and a sizeable section on the footway of an urban main road. There is an existing cycle route on Cumbernauld Road, mostly with kerbside on-road cycle lanes, that takes a different route into the city centre via Royston Road. This route links to it at each end.

I'd be interested to know what people think of the plans. I know that these proposals aren't exactly the kind of high quality provision we are looking for. How best should the route be implemented, taking a broadly similar route?

I've added Google Streetview links to the options spreadsheet for those unfamiliar with the area.

sallyhinch

That just takes me to the Filedropper homepage... do I need to have an account or something to see it?

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andy_gla

Ah, looks like they've deleted it. Try this one instead: http://www.fileswap.com/dl/XewM37aM6E/

 

sallyhinch

OK, had a quick look - it's kind of hard to follow not knowing the area or exactly what the different colours on the maps mean...

first responses:

1. crossing over the motorway is tricky - anything which mixes bikes with traffic there is going to mean dealing with fast traffic in motorway mode, which is not slowed down at all by all those sweeping curves. Taking out the turn lanes would help, giving space for bikes and slowing the cars crossing their path. 

2. The back-street routes look awfully circuitous to me, if I'm reading them right. The A80 itself looks plenty wide for proper segregated provision without taking too much space from the carriageway - and there's more room for it there than on the residential streets. 

3. The route through the park: there doesn't seem to be any street lighting or mention of putting it in so this would feel quite dangerous after dark. 

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Joe

A very simple one from TfL, I have thought: "save your tin of paint and your keep left bollards for when you've learnt from Go Dutch how to do this properly."

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/streets/cheyne-walk/consult_view

Joe Dunckley

sallyhinch

is here https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/schools/younglondon

Consultation closes 27th March

 

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grimnorth
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pete owens

https://consultations.wearecamden.org/culture-environment/borough-wide-2...

Proposal to impose a 20mph limit on all the borough controlled streets - and possibly lobby TfL to include the red routes as well.

 

sallyhinch

cheers for that

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andy_gla

The southern half of Candleriggs in Glasgow is to be pedestrianised, including with cycling banned. The TRO "City Centre (traffic management) (amendment no.7 hm)"  is at http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=4216 and any objections would be welcome.

Streetview - http://goo.gl/maps/JCX1C

Andy

grimnorth

TfL are consulting on removing buses from the Narrow Way (essentially "Hackney High St").

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/narrow-way/consult_view

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girodilento

Sorry folks but I just got the newsletter mentioning consultations... this is the last evening for this consultation that I'm about to sit down and read......

http://www.kent.gov.uk/roads_and_transport/getting_around/cycling/cycling_strategies/tonbridge_and_malling_strategy.aspx

Cheers

Scott

 

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sallyhinch

Might be a bit short notice - but probably worth adding your reaction to the thread on local strategies as well http://cycling-embassy.org.uk/node/2684

First read through suggests it's a lot of shared paths - and certainly for Tonbridge the cycle network looks quite wiggly compared with the main roads, although it is reasonably dense. Good to see that they're prepared to remove parking spaces to extend one segregated track - and making sensible use of filtered permeability. There's one plan for Tonbridge that looks a bit worrying - it says 

11. Stocks Green Road in Hildenborough is used frequently by cyclists both for commuting and leisure purposes, however the heavy traffic on this road means that is not currently safe for cyclists. To increase the safety of cyclists and encourage more cyclists to use this route there should be some advisory cycle lane markings, narrowing the carriageway and increasing awareness of cyclists to motorists. 
Road narrowings can actually make life worse for cyclists - especially if the advisory cycle lane isn't particularly wide. It could actually be putting cyclists into the path of the drivers. If that is both a heavily trafficked route and popular with cyclists then that's where they should be thinking about good segregated provision instead.  That's just based on a quick glance through though 

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girodilento

Thanks for the input Sally. I know a couple of people got some comments in. Agree on road narrowings. Thought the plan was fairly poor overall. Won't encourage any real change in cycling levels that I can see. 

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pete owens

Even on wide roads, cycle lanes have the opposite effect to those claimed in the strategy.

Cycle lanes REDUCE the awareness of cyclists to motorists and result in drivers leaving less space, driving faster and with less care than they would otherwise. See: http://www.warringtoncyclecampaign.co.uk/report/cycle-lanes.pdf 

The only way that cycle lanes would improve conditions on that road would be if they were to install proper width (ie 2m) cycle lanes and remove the centre line leaving a single 3m lane for 2-way general traffic. I don't think that is what they have in mind - I suspect it is more likely they are thinking of half width cycle lanes in the gutter to prevent mere cyclists delaying the important people in cars.

 

 

sallyhinch

Or stop messing about with cycle lanes altogether and put in a separated track. 

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Terry2

Barnet Council is consulting on a project to revitalise  the North Finchley shopping centre in North London. Details at http://engage.barnet.gov.uk/environment-and-operations/nftcproject/consult_view

Barnet has for a long time been in practice indifferent or even hostile to cycling, though it has a few very unambitious policies in favour. North Finchley has no provision for cycling at all, and the only improvement planned is to provide some bike stands. Even that counts as fairly radical in Barnet. Anyone local might want to comment. I think getting more people cycling there would have a greater impact than any of the improvements proposed, so any comments in support of separation and speed limits to benefit the whole community could be worthwhile.

Consultation ends on 19 July 2013.

As Easy As Ridi...

Aldgate gyratory - 

http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/services/transport-and-streets/transport-planning/transport-projects/aldgate-area/Pages/Have-your-say.aspx 

The deadline is 8th August.

Details of the scheme here -

http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/services/transport-and-streets/transport-planning/transport-projects/aldgate-area/Pages/default.aspx

There are some good bits, principally the new public space created on what is currently part of the gyatory, which will have a cycle path running through it. 

However the rest of it falls pretty far short of what's acceptable. Narrow, intermittent cycle lanes that give up at bus stops and at junctions; pointless ASLs (where you can't even turn right!); Mansell Street remains one way, with the introduction of a dangerous-looking central feeder lane to an ASL; lots of nasty pinch points; and not even a 20 mph limit. Disappointing. 

 

simon

This isn't actually a consultation but it's been proposed to turn Lambeth into as close to a cycling Nirvana as I've ever seen in this country. So please write to the Lambeth councillors and cabinet members to ask them to support it at the vote on 8th July. More details here:

http://kenningtonpob.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/yes-yes-yes-come-on-lambeth-lead-charge.html

 

 

 

sallyhinch

And it was very very far from an anything Nirvana. Really hope that this goes the right way

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girodilento

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sallyhinch

Details here https://www.citizenspace.com/bristol/city-development/clarenceroad/consult_view - looks good at first glance. Deadline for responses 25th August

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Katsdekker
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The concept is watertight I think. Maybe a few teeny tweaks here and there... footpath looks a bit squshed near bridge entrance (why the wide swerve of the bike path?) - suppose the path has to start from somewhere (the shared bit on the left is a bit odd)... I like the consultation leaflet too!
sallyhinch

It will help counter all the inevitable moaning...

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christhebull

As I have said to the council officers involved, this scheme is good (even if it is in a relatively "easy" location in terms of the ability to reallocate road space) - BUT this track will not be terribly useful until either end is sorted out. Fortunately, the Bath Bridge roundabout and Bedminster Bridge roundabout are both due for modification as part of the Local Enterprise Zone and Bus Rapid Transit 2 respectively. (The original plan was to route BRT2 on a different route over Prince Street Bridge, this was changed due to local opposition). The LEZ will provide funding for more substantial improvements around Temple Meads, including a significant amount of funding for cycling.

However, the plans for BRT2 (referred to officially as AVTM, ie Ashton Vale to Temple Meads) do not improve Bedminster Bridge roundabout for cycling - the main change is a right turn lane for buses only that saves them having to go over both bridges. (See plan here). The plan does not show the proposed cycle track over Redcliffe Hill (a segregated 2 way track on the western side of the road) that the Clarence Road track was supposed to join up to, so getting these plans modified is a current priority. (The track over Redcliffe Hill would, eventually, join up with an envisigned "Spanish Style Boulevard" on Redcliffe Way).

The website for the entire bus rapid transit scheme is here, consultation is ongoing.

sallyhinch

Cambridge is consulting on its Transport Strategy for Cambridge and South Cambridgeshire http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/transport/strategies/transport-plans/Transport+Strategy+for+Cambridge+and+South+Cambridgeshire.htm

Cambridge Cycling Campaign have put their own response here suggesting they be a bit more ambitious in their cycling plans http://www.camcycle.org.uk/blog/2013/09/21/transport-strategy-response/ - they'd welcome supporting comments along similar lines from others

 

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As Easy As Ridi...
As Easy As Ridi...

Large gyratory to be turned into 2-way 20 mph road.

https://co​nsultation​s.tfl.gov.​uk/streets​/tottenham​-hale-20mp​h

However no separation from motor traffic, despite (fairly substandard) cycle track currently in existence.

Closes 18th October.

pete owens

Liverpool to suspend all bus lanes in the city at a cost of £700 000/year.

http://www.liverpoolexpress.co.uk/2013/09/19/mayor-anderson-proposes-bus-lanes-suspension/

While not a formal consultation, in thie video the mayor (Joe Anderson) claims he would be delighted to hear your views. Intersting to compare with the cycle strategy - where they basically claim they won't be able to do anything at all due to lack of funding.
sallyhinch

http://www.northlanarkshire.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=27514

I think too late to comment now, but these routes have been planned with the Dutch consultancy Royal HaskoningDHV so worth a look to see what they have come up with

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jitenshajin

 

Details & survey link:

http://www.surreycc.gov.uk/roads-and-transport/roads-and-transport-polic...

Deadline: 1st November 2013

 

hardshoulder

Hertfordshire 'Speed Management' Questionaire

http://www.hertsdirect.org/services/transtreets/tranpan/ltp/LTP3/ltp3consult2013/

I think there are text fields included at the end.

Ends Friday 22nd November

ozzage

I read somewhere recently (twitter?) that you were collecting consultations. Here's a nice one for you

https://www.citizenspace.com/lbhf/transport-and-technical-services/sbtcconsult

Closes 6th October so not much time left - sorry I didn't post it here sooner.

Some positive elements  - removal of space for motorised traffic, increased pavement widths and 2m (!!) advisory lanes in each direction for part of it. Overall it's all very old-school though and doesn't really show any inventiveness. I suspect the bus traffic (there's a lot on Uxbridge road) is a problem along here.

Still, maybe the boffins at CEOGB headquarters can come up with something clever in response!

Edit: BTW I responded mostly in favour of raised entry treatments etc, but opposed to use of advisory lanes. Asked for segregation wherever possible and cycle paths to be placed on pavement side of parking. I'm no expert and I think the bus stops will make it hard but worth a shot. Currently Uxbridge Road has quite a lot of cyclists heading to central London but it's not the nicest (especially out of the bus lanes). Hope that the GEOGB crew have a chance to add their response.

sallyhinch

I have passed it on to the board to see if they've any suggestions. Thanks for the heads up

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nuttyxander

With my hfcyclists hat on I've reviewed the proposals and put as much local context on as I can from nine years in the area. Submission deadline Sunday 6th, likewise apologies wasn't up earlier, but we've only just sorted the branch website. Will review all comments over weekend before our own submission goes in.

As an aside, experimenting with a bit of local aggregation to help feed consultations into our site, seems rss feeds on most council sites are becoming more common especially as systems like Citizen Space adopted. Should probably get onto looking at cyclescape next though.

sallyhinch

Do you think that having an Embassy response supporting the local group's is worth doing? We have a few with Shepherd's Bush connections one way or another on the board

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Slodger

Spalding, in the middle of the South Lincolnshire Fens, ideal cycling country, flood defences built by the dutch centuries ago, so no excuse really!

http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/residents/transport-travel-and-roads/highway-improvement/transport-strategies/spalding-transport-strategy/118463.article

It was only by luck I found this, so not so successful an advertising campaign. The main issue being the increase in trains along the railway line, that splits the town and the proposed western relief road to counter the increase in closure of the level crossings. An idel time to re-draw the town centre. Closes 31st December 2013.

sallyhinch

http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2011/03/holland-in-england.html

Time to make South Holland like real Holland??

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onlyanotherandy

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/streets/a1-holloway-road

The usual rubbish. 30mph limit, because, you know, why not let motorists go fast when they can, in the middle of a city bustling with pedestrians and bikes? Central reservation, I'm assuming this ugly and restrictive gaurdrail to stop people crossing will remain, forcing people to cross unsafely right next to the big junctions against a red man (I'm guessing the wait for a green man is far too long on such a main road - can someone confirm?). 2 or 3 road lanes per direction and a green painted cycle lanes of 1.5 metre width - that sounds somewhat good until you realise they will be full of parked vehicles. At the junctions, ASLs. London Cycling Vision? Not in December 2013. Being the A1 surely it's a TfL road, it's not like they could have any opposition from the borough? What are they doing, seriously? Such difficulty crossing on foot is surely hurting the shops there, too.

RGAlexander

Hi Team,

New consultation up at TfL on for Tower Bridge Road here, available for comment until Feb 14th.

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/streets/abbey-street/consult_view

Check out the size of comment box 7 for listing objections - they're obviously not expecting many!

As for the content, seems bog-standard, "This is what the traffic flow model tells us" stuff. So for cycles there are the luxuries of a cycle-lane widened to 1.5m, an ASL with no feeder lanes, banned turns, pinchpoints and indirect shared spaces. The kind of thing we'd hoped was in the past

Aparently there was an option with all pedestrian green phase which "means traffic would build-up along Tower Bridge Road blocking access further down the road and the junction and pedestrians would have to wait a long time to cross." So this option is off the table. The traffic flow model clearly doesn't cope well with congestion/demand feedback.

In terms of what should be proposed, the road is effectively 4 lanes wide, so could presumably accommodate a protected lane + general traffic lane for most of the length of Tower Bridge Road? This junction should probably retain the banned left turn (41 vehicles in a.m. peak using it, so clearly not vital) but might be a candidate for an all green cycle/pedestrian scramble?

Also, can anyone explain to me who the churchyard route is for? It would be approx. 40% longer, in addition to slower as in a shared space + entry/exit time, all to avoid 100m of traffic. A route from Bermondsey Street to Purbrook Street diagonally across the churchyard would have some value but that's not quite what's been shown here.

 

 

 

 

radii8

It would be useful if this thread listed posts in reverse order, so latest posts appeared at the top. 

Latest consultation for Westminster for anyone who cycles in the borough.  Deadline: 20 January 2014.

Survey: http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1466853/Cycling-consultation-2013-2014

Background: http://www.westminster.gov.uk/services/transportandstreets/cycling/cycli...

 

hardshoulder
sallyhinch

Jsut to show it's not all about London - the Peak District is consulting on its cycling strategy http://sharpedgetrip.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/greater-peak-district-cycle-strategy.html starting on the 17th Feb

 

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hardshoulder
As Easy As Ridi...

Consultation open on some new proposed routes in Eastbourne.

Plans and details available here -

https://consultation.eastsussex.gov.uk/economy-transport-environment/eastbourne-cycling-improvements

Closes 31st January (Friday).

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